Does a Lie Told Often Enough Become the Truth?

This morning “Steven Goddard” quotes Lenin and Hitler with apparent approval. In an article entitled “Today’s Featured Climate Criminals – The Guardian” he closes with the following quotations:

“A lie told often enough becomes the truth”
– Vladimir Lenin

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success”
– Adolf Hitler

The few points about the Arctic that Tony Heller repeats over and over look like this today:

The Guardian reports that Arctic ice is melting “faster and earlier”

Arctic ice melting faster and earlier as scientists demand action | Environment | The Guardian

Arctic sea ice is melting very slowly, and is nearing a mid-summer high for the past decade.


Ocean and Ice Services | Danmarks Meteorologiske Institut

Arctic sea ice looked like this on June 20 – nothing like the fake picture in their May 5 article.


The Greenland melt season started more than a month late, and has seen below normal melt every day this year.


Greenland Ice Sheet Surface Mass Budget: DMI

The Guardian report cited by Steve/Tony does in actual fact date from May 5th 2015. For an up to date alternative viewpoint see for example:

DMI Arctic sea ice volume on June 22nd 2015
DMI Arctic sea ice volume on June 22nd 2015

NASA Worldview “true-color” image of broken ice north of the East Siberian Sea on June 22nd 2015, derived from bands 1, 4 and 3 of the MODIS sensor on the Aqua satellite
NASA Worldview “true-color” image of broken ice north of the East Siberian Sea on June 22nd 2015, derived from bands 1, 4 and 3 of the MODIS sensor on the Aqua satellite
NSIDC Greenland melt area graph on June 21st 2015
NSIDC Greenland melt area graph on June 21st 2015

9 thoughts on “Does a Lie Told Often Enough Become the Truth?

    1. Chilly – Now you’re making the same mistake as Vergent!

      I’m well aware of the difference between “melting” and “surface mass balance”. I’m also well aware that the DMI’s visualisation of “melting” generally doesn’t look the same as the NSIDC’s. That’s why I recommend looking at all the available data instead of just lurid headlines and freshly picked cherries.

      1. sorry about that jim, i should have known better 🙂 . i see friv is praying for the long range forecast to be accurate so there is big melt. strange position for someone to adopt.

        what do you think of the effect of the amo entering the cool phase in relation to future melt seasons ? for me ,hopefully it has a positive effect on the ice as the atlantic obviously as a far larger effect than the pacific.

        i note a few climatereanalyzer charts being posted on the asif . i do not know how you feel about their accuracy,but i would ask you to look at the area you live to judge how well they do.

        some ice posts by chris reynolds in the asif on the effects of the gac 2012 upon the ice . i tend to agree with his assessment .

        still a bit of a wishy washy melt season so far ,i think it will be at least the end of july before we see where it is heading,the big drops are still to come and with the large areas of cool anomalies is the north atlantic there is every chance we could see a few big storms from that side. these would have a far greater effect than anything from the pacific side,initially increasing compaction, but conditioning the ice for greater melt.

        looking at the last twenty years it would be rare to see three years of increased minimum extent in a row,so as much as i would like to see the last two years rebound turn into at least a mini recovery, i have my doubts as to it actually happening,we shall soon see.

        1. that should read some nice posts by chris reynolds, not ice. this keyboard (and possibly the operator 🙂 ) are on the way out.

  1. This from the polar portal is well worth a read Jim. I note there were not widescale retractions at the time by the media once this had been noted .

    Addendum January 2015.

    A surprise in Greenland ice behavior, summer 2013

    In 2013, the change in the land ice mass in Greenland derived from the Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE) showed a very different behavior to that which had been observed since the launch of the satellites in 2002. This was originally interpreted as related to a possible degradation of the GRACE data, and it was not clear until late 2014 that this anomaly should likely be interpreted as something real. The data shows that between June 2013 and June 2014, Greenland had very little ice loss. Compared to an average annual loss of more than 250 Gigatonnes in the previous ten years, this is quite unusual. It is possibly a consequence of the extreme 2012 melt, the largest on record. The GRACE satellites provide monthly measurements of the mass change of Greenland’s ice sheet and surrounding glaciers and in turn Greenland global sea level contribution. Because gaps in GRACE data have increased in recent years and because GRACE data typically have a 2 month processing delay, Polar Portal scientists have used an apparently strong statistical relationship between ice surface reflectivity (available near realtime from the MODIS sensor on the NASA Terra satellite) and ice mass changes from GRACE to:

    a) fill gaps in the GRACE record and
    b) estimate Greenland ice mass change near-realtime.

    The technique used to make near real-time estimates based on the reflectivity broke down in 2013, and yielded an inaccurately large ice loss result as reported in the Season Report. Polar Portal scientists are now busy assessing the physical processes underlying Greenland’s surprisingly neutral mass balance summer 2013. In the meantime, we have suspended further reflectivity-based Greenland mass change estimates.

    [I’ve taken the liberty of reformatting this for you – Jim]

  2. Plenty of LIES and Hysterics from Hoaxers GWC… on an almost Daily Basis..

    Why not apply some of your skepticism towards daily Climate Scare’s posted at Huff Po or Think Progress??

    1. despite your advice the usual suspects on the asif are in full meltdown mode now jim. they better pray for accelerated melt or all those posts are going to leave them with egg on their faces.

      i find it hard to understand from people that have been on there for years,it would appear they have learnt nothing. quite a few actually want the ice to melt out as well,strange people.

      i note someone mentioned lots of rain next week for the cab. looking at current weather patterns i would not bet against it being snow.

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